Meh. The problem is the focus on Trump - when the real problem in Europe is Europe's leaders. Trump is not even POTUS yet; European elites have been sabotaging their own economies and sovereignty for years, decades even.
Equally, it is ludicrous to complain about Trump hopefully redirecting the US into a focus on a localized sphere of influence as opposed to its existing world hegemon aspirations.
Greenland in this context is both a US sphere of influence issue AND an Arctic issue, as is Canada.
Nor am I the least bit sympathetic to complaints about European nation fault lines being exposed by Trump's actions.
Why are you complaining that Trump is breaking open the open collusion between the European political classes to exclude European population's needs and goals from their own government policies?
This seems more like a callow and self-centered complaint that Trump is not doing what you would like to see done, as opposed to a clear eyed analysis of the impacts of what Trump is possibly pushing for.
Just a quick note about Trudeau's resignation: while Trump's threats might have played a role in it somewhere, they were not the main factor. He has been under pressure to go for many months. Influential voices in the Liberal Party were calling for his resignation as leader at least since last 2023. His nearly unprecedented unpopularity among voters led to important losses in by-elections last summer and fall (before the US election). His mistreatment of an important cabinet minister was the final straw -- again, not related to the Trump threat (though that might have played a role in that particular event). Trump or not, Trudeau would have been forced out. The line we are hearing from the US, that he left for fear of Trump, is simplistic at best and flat-out wrong at worst.
I'm truly amazed at how surprised people are acting. I mean this has been the US empire's MO since it's genocide of the indigenous Americans. Colonizers gonna colonize.
The people in Greenland who would like to be completely separate from Denmark.... are generally for their native culture...in other words those people are not in support of running from Danish overlords to a US overlord that would plunder their with native for minerals and plop military bases everywhere bringing war and polluting the place.
So that's not any "fault line" for Trump. He is literally aiming to colonise the place, its not a matter of invitation.
As for Canada look its not a soverign country. Not any more than Germany or Norway or whatever. Canada has no real independence of thought or of action. They are a standard NATO stooge country for a long time.
Am I reading your comment right, that you think the people of Greenland would have the slightest say in the outcome of any such land grab on the part of the USA? On what basis could you conclude that the US has any interest in, or would acquiesce to, any demands, complaints, lawsuits, rejection, or hands and knees begging, by said Greenlanders?
1) I responded to the author's theory that Trump could exploit a "fault line" of Greenlanders wanting to be free of Danish control....by offering them some sort of benefefit of instead being under US control. They dont want to be under anybody's control.
2) Dont paraphrase or mis-paraphrase me. My words are right there in black and white.
Yah we are sovereign nation and tRump and his minions can go fuck themselves. If he tries to invade Canada it will be war! Canada will wipe Washington DC and the Pentagon off the face of Earth🤣😆😈
The ironic thing in this case is the media is so vapid that all the talk is about Trump, and yet no one addresses the naked fact that Denmark, while whipping up war in Ukraine supposedly to preserve Ukrainian "sovereginity and indepencence"......exercises colonial control over Greenland.
Last I checked on the map Greenland is nowhere near Denmark and the two territorries have nothing to do with each other. Greenland is in no way plausibly a part of whatever peoples exist in the Kingdom of Denmark.
Shame and hypocrisy should be the headlines here, first Denmark, then Trump, guilty on these counts.
But the media today are about as shallow as a dog's bowl of water, so no we will never get them to actually emphasise the real story and the real points: Greenland should be free from Denmark, and Trump needs to STFU and take care of his own people, many of whom are lietrallt living on the streets of the world's richest country, while he, Musk and the rest of the oligarchs live in penthouses and mansions.
There will be many consequences of Trump's words and actions. Germany and others in Europe will definitely take the opportunity to be less dependent on the American military. The US empire is rapidly falling.
If you assume, as I do, that there is a right to self-determination of peoples—one that supersedes, for example, the right to territorial integrity, as Russia has argued in the Donbas case—then the 60,000 Greenlanders certainly have the right to secede from Denmark or relinquish their sovereignty in order to join another state. Should they not be inclined to do so, they should seek alliances, build up a military force, and fight for their sovereignty. What would be wrong with that? And if they chose fighting, and the U.S. is invading, then all justice is on their side. In this case, however, the the »Melian Dialogue« applies: »The strong do what they can«, the strong Athenians told the islanders, »and the weak suffer what they must.« The weak being the Greenlanders in this case. That is why Mearsheimer titled his seminal work »The Tragedy of Great Power Politics«.
First thank you for making me laugh at the beginning of your article but then you got serious and present your observations and behold you are right 👍👍
Meh. The problem is the focus on Trump - when the real problem in Europe is Europe's leaders. Trump is not even POTUS yet; European elites have been sabotaging their own economies and sovereignty for years, decades even.
Equally, it is ludicrous to complain about Trump hopefully redirecting the US into a focus on a localized sphere of influence as opposed to its existing world hegemon aspirations.
Greenland in this context is both a US sphere of influence issue AND an Arctic issue, as is Canada.
Nor am I the least bit sympathetic to complaints about European nation fault lines being exposed by Trump's actions.
Why are you complaining that Trump is breaking open the open collusion between the European political classes to exclude European population's needs and goals from their own government policies?
This seems more like a callow and self-centered complaint that Trump is not doing what you would like to see done, as opposed to a clear eyed analysis of the impacts of what Trump is possibly pushing for.
Just a quick note about Trudeau's resignation: while Trump's threats might have played a role in it somewhere, they were not the main factor. He has been under pressure to go for many months. Influential voices in the Liberal Party were calling for his resignation as leader at least since last 2023. His nearly unprecedented unpopularity among voters led to important losses in by-elections last summer and fall (before the US election). His mistreatment of an important cabinet minister was the final straw -- again, not related to the Trump threat (though that might have played a role in that particular event). Trump or not, Trudeau would have been forced out. The line we are hearing from the US, that he left for fear of Trump, is simplistic at best and flat-out wrong at worst.
I'm truly amazed at how surprised people are acting. I mean this has been the US empire's MO since it's genocide of the indigenous Americans. Colonizers gonna colonize.
The people in Greenland who would like to be completely separate from Denmark.... are generally for their native culture...in other words those people are not in support of running from Danish overlords to a US overlord that would plunder their with native for minerals and plop military bases everywhere bringing war and polluting the place.
So that's not any "fault line" for Trump. He is literally aiming to colonise the place, its not a matter of invitation.
As for Canada look its not a soverign country. Not any more than Germany or Norway or whatever. Canada has no real independence of thought or of action. They are a standard NATO stooge country for a long time.
Am I reading your comment right, that you think the people of Greenland would have the slightest say in the outcome of any such land grab on the part of the USA? On what basis could you conclude that the US has any interest in, or would acquiesce to, any demands, complaints, lawsuits, rejection, or hands and knees begging, by said Greenlanders?
1) I responded to the author's theory that Trump could exploit a "fault line" of Greenlanders wanting to be free of Danish control....by offering them some sort of benefefit of instead being under US control. They dont want to be under anybody's control.
2) Dont paraphrase or mis-paraphrase me. My words are right there in black and white.
Yah we are sovereign nation and tRump and his minions can go fuck themselves. If he tries to invade Canada it will be war! Canada will wipe Washington DC and the Pentagon off the face of Earth🤣😆😈
The ironic thing in this case is the media is so vapid that all the talk is about Trump, and yet no one addresses the naked fact that Denmark, while whipping up war in Ukraine supposedly to preserve Ukrainian "sovereginity and indepencence"......exercises colonial control over Greenland.
Last I checked on the map Greenland is nowhere near Denmark and the two territorries have nothing to do with each other. Greenland is in no way plausibly a part of whatever peoples exist in the Kingdom of Denmark.
Shame and hypocrisy should be the headlines here, first Denmark, then Trump, guilty on these counts.
But the media today are about as shallow as a dog's bowl of water, so no we will never get them to actually emphasise the real story and the real points: Greenland should be free from Denmark, and Trump needs to STFU and take care of his own people, many of whom are lietrallt living on the streets of the world's richest country, while he, Musk and the rest of the oligarchs live in penthouses and mansions.
There will be many consequences of Trump's words and actions. Germany and others in Europe will definitely take the opportunity to be less dependent on the American military. The US empire is rapidly falling.
If you assume, as I do, that there is a right to self-determination of peoples—one that supersedes, for example, the right to territorial integrity, as Russia has argued in the Donbas case—then the 60,000 Greenlanders certainly have the right to secede from Denmark or relinquish their sovereignty in order to join another state. Should they not be inclined to do so, they should seek alliances, build up a military force, and fight for their sovereignty. What would be wrong with that? And if they chose fighting, and the U.S. is invading, then all justice is on their side. In this case, however, the the »Melian Dialogue« applies: »The strong do what they can«, the strong Athenians told the islanders, »and the weak suffer what they must.« The weak being the Greenlanders in this case. That is why Mearsheimer titled his seminal work »The Tragedy of Great Power Politics«.
First thank you for making me laugh at the beginning of your article but then you got serious and present your observations and behold you are right 👍👍
Lets-wait-uñtil-the-fat-sopraño-siñgs 🙄😏🥱🤑🤥
Operation Just Because
Sums it up perfectly!!
Brilliant!!
I think Trump has "Golf courses' in his mind.
The 'greatest/biggest/mammoth golf course of all time! Aided by Kushner.
Same old fucking rapists and slavers from the Old Monroe Doctrine days. But now turbocharged fucking Trump Kushner Greater Mar a Lago Israel....
https://open.substack.com/pub/paulokirk/p/something-about-those-two-rapist?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=5i319