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Jay's avatar

I always like to hear an outside opinion on just how bad our nonfunctioning "society" looks from afar. I still have associates who say "well everyone still wants to come here." I just shake my head and explain to them we have almost 50% of young white males who's American dream is to move out of the U.S. Yes, we are being overrun by illegals at the border, these are not productive members of any society. They are here because they are offered unbelievable amounts of "free" things which the foolish taxpayer is funding. One last thing, Ivy league campuses are NOT what the US "looks" like.

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Tarik Cyril Amar's avatar

And I am not even that outside. I've lived in the USA for a total of a decade (8 of which teaching at Columbia) and half my family is American.

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Carlé Costa's avatar

Very important remarcs about the wild nature of an efective demonstration, specially against a regime who doesn´t care about what people think... how not be "inconvenient", "uncomfortable", "disturbing", incarnating a "challenge"? Just like in the garden of gardens, the actual Germany: in every demonstration against the Genocide, first of all, the demonstrators must heard by the organizers what the police (the regime) demand and impose as acceptable, what you can not said (for example nothing related to de destruction of Israel, or something considered "antisemitic" for them) ... then clearly, they don´t want challenges to their narrative, obliterating every other thinking. "Tolerance", "inclusion" and so on , were in the last years idieological trojan horses for twisted politics, but now, when about to hear demands to defend the rights of Palestine, these holy values of the actual "vielfältige" Germany are absolutely abscent: so much afraid they have of the denunce of their lack of rightgeousness and blatant hipocresy. Faceless. And violent. And most public follow the trend, the signaled autoritative path.

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Billy C's avatar

There's an update since this podcast on Dartmouth professor Annalise Orlleck's brutal arrest by N.H. State Riot Police, in which they also seized her smartphone. Her bail conditions have been "corrected" by Dartmouth: The correction now bars Orleck from the Green, Parkhurst Hall and the President’s residence at 14 Webster Ave., rather than the campus at large. But the criminal charges remain in place. She has taught at Dartmouth for 34 years. Here's the news item:

https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2024/05/annelise-orleck-no-longer-banned-from-campus

Relatedly, there's a noteworthy subtext to Dr. Amar's summary of how Zionist "counter- protesters" (with police playing a similar role to the Weimar cops) are following the S.A. script from the 20's+30's in Germany. They, and the police, are also emulating one of the more execrable parts of the IDF's script in Gaza and the West Bank: unhinged attacks on older women (and men too of course), but with regard to women they attack them deliberately and with excessive violence.,the difference in Gaza of course is that the attacks are murderous in many instances. In U.S. campus anti-Genocide protests, police have violently arrested several female university professors merely for being nearby encampments, and there's also video from UCLA of the Zionist thugs threatening and the grappling with an older woman trying to protect the encampment, screaming at her as they pulled a barricade from her "you stand no chance, old lady!". Such are the paragons of Genocide Joe's "civil society". Much more civil disobedience is needed if we're ever to achieve a just and peaceful future, and I think we can count on such actions growing in scale rapidly as the impending invasion of Rafah looms.

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Gernot's avatar

Großartig. Wie immer danke dafür. Vorallem die Analyse zur Zivilgesellschaft.

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Peter's avatar

To be "balanced" is no decoration in the West, regarding the jungle in the rest of the world (J. Borrell). That's what you can learn from the Georgian "demonstrators".

To keep your mouth shut is demanded in the civilized western garden when the gardeners clean up the mess in the rest of the world.

"Farewell, Sukhumi - Georgian protesters unwittingly imperil their nation's survival" from Scott Ritter is a very touching essay about Georgia and its role in the western crusade against Russia: https://scottritter.substack.com/p/farewell-sukhumi

Thanks a lot for your telling comparison of the protests USA/Georgia.

Peter

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BK's avatar

Thank you, Tariq, most stimulating.

2 phrases you might find useful: ‘ so on and so forth’; ‘Georgia in the Caucasus, as opposed to the state of Georgia’

Chuss

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